TCD Blog
Both Fredd Finn and Daryl Daugs were featured in the YDWA candidate interviews.
From Melon Online blog:
Without a doubt the primary in the 35th is going to be the most
exciting Washington State will witness this year. Whoever wins will
almost certainly go on to secure this overwhelmingly Blue district.
...
Having just listened to Daugs stories of raising abused foster
children and wading through the destruction of New Orleans, Finn's
noble contribution to his community somehow seemed superficial – an
unfair judgment the endorsement committee could not avoid making under
the circumstances. After all, not everyone has to be a martyr to be a
credit to their community.
The following debate on who to endorse was vigorous. Many felt Finn
was the more “practical candidate” whilst Daugs would be better suited
heading up an NGO. Others reported feeling a unique “glow” from Daugs
who made them feel like he was more of a person than a politician.
Everyone agreed that both were ultimately outstanding candidates and
bemoaned the fact that they had to compete in the same district.
Read the entire post, its an interesting look into the race.
The 35th LD Democratic blog also features some upcoming events for Daugs in early June.
Submitted by Emmett on May 14, 2008 - 7:25pm.
Well, we know Mike is running, so...:
DeBolt will see a rematch from Democrat Mike Rechner, whom he
defeated handily in 2006. Despite that, former Chehalis Mayor Fred
Ryder said Rechner presents legitimate competition and implored the
crowd to put big checks in the envelopes placed at each table.
“The
gentleman that’s running -- and I use that term loosely -- he’s going
to come on hard, and Richard needs your help,” Ryder said, adding that
the clout built by District 20 legislators is important for the area.
“We have a good team, so work hard to keep these guys there.”
Damn right he's coming out hard.
Submitted by Emmett on May 13, 2008 - 7:03am.
Sometimes it's good to look around and see what other democrats are putting in their platforms. This is the link to the CDP platform.
Submitted by zach@wfse.org on April 1, 2008 - 10:45am.
From HQ:
Thank you to all the wonderful volunteers who have been helping this week with data entry of 11,000 caucus attendees!
We’re about half way to completion and we need to keep pushing to get
done early next week. If you can spare the time this weekend or next
week, please come to the office at 2120 Pacific Ave. (between KRXY
Radio and Capital City Stove and Fan) and help us make a dent in the
data!
It’s easy work, not a lot of typing, and most importantly, highly paid...free coffee, tea, pop, etc.
We have 5-6 computers but if you have a notebook computer with wireless access, you can work from that computer, too.
It’s a big job and every hour you can give to the effort is helpful.
For more information, you can call the office at 956-0235.
Submitted by Emmett on March 28, 2008 - 11:21am.
How exactly local parties should live with the Top Two is the topic. In
Thurston County we have the very real possibility that we could end up
with two Dems or two Republicans in a county commission election in
November.
So, how should the Thurston County Dems live with this? The Olympian:
Thurston
County Democratic chairman John Cusick said he hopes there is some way
the party's precinct committee officers could be allowed to nominate
more than one candidate in situations such as the race between Romero
and Halvorson.
"I want to hold out that possibility," Cusick said.
Failing
that, he said the party's precinct committee officers might nominate
one candidate, and the party might endorse two. Or, the party could
bypass all of the nomination problems by just letting the top two play
out the way its sponsors intended, letting candidates run regardless of
party support.
But Zack Smith, an Olympia resident who serves on
the Democrats' executive board from the 9th Congressional District,
predicted his party will do nominating conventions separate from the
ongoing presidential caucus process.
"As far as I can see it's
open and shut," Smith said of the nominating conventions. "What we need
to be able to do is let people know which candidate is the choice of
the party."
The Pierce County Democrats have already sort of dealt with this by deciding how they're going to live in a post-IRV world.
They're going to allow up to three candidates for county offices to
advance with the bold "Dem" lable attached to their candidacies. This
move allows choice, but also avoids the "nomination" fight.
Rather,
it simply says that "these people are Democrats." The local Democratic
organization decides who carries the lable, but it doesn't limit the
label to just one candidate either.
Submitted by Emmett on March 26, 2008 - 11:37am.
Stewart Henderson, one of the co-chairs of the platform committee, just sent an email to encourage platform committee members to get in last minute comments on the draft platform:
If you have comments, WE NEED YOUR COMMENTS BY END-OF-DAY THIS
THURSDAY (TOMORROW)! We promised to get this to John Cusick Friday,
so he could send it out to all the delegates. We will give the
delegates a week to respond with comments, and then we will have a
work session the weekend after next to review their input and finalize
ideas for resolutions.
Thanks for all your hard work and input! I think we're on track to
have a great product here!
You can view the draft agenda here.
View responses from platform committee members here.
Delegates elected during the precinct caucuses will approve a final county platform at the April 19 county convention.
Submitted by Emmett on March 26, 2008 - 10:25am.
The Thurston County Democrats is opening up their (our, I guess) platform writing process this year. Anyone can watch as our hard working platform committee puts pen to paper (or finger to key board).
The platform committees emails to eachother are public, and available here. While they are meeting in person, they're doing much of their document sharing and discussion via email.
I've been trying to keep track of their emails to each other, and this is the most recent version of the platform.
You can also let the committee know what's on your mind. Use these forums to discuss issues you think should be in the platform or what resolutions (if you want to go that far) the Thurston Democrats should consider this year.
I'll keep track of what's going on in their email group and on the forums and write updates on the blog as things change.
Submitted by Emmett on March 14, 2008 - 12:34pm.
Via email:
This is a reminder our next monthly
meeting is Monday, February 25, at 7:00 PM in
room
152,
building 1 at the Thurston
County Courthouse.
Following a brief update on the
tremendously successful caucus and convention cycle we've now entered,
we will consider the proposed revisions to our Campaign
Services Policy and Procedure, as well as the three
resolutions introduced last fall and the "Priorities for a Healthy
Washington" resolution
introduced last month . New business includes adoption of our 2008
budget and recommendations from the Campaign Services Committee.
The
full draft agenda for the
meeting is available here.
The draft minutes of last month's
meeting are
available here.
As always, please remember the less
fortunate
in our community and
bring one or more non-perishable items for donation to the Thurston
County Food Bank.
I look forward to seeing you next week!
Submitted by Emmett on February 24, 2008 - 10:21am.
The 35th LD blog asks:
Are you voting in the primary? Why or why not? Leave your comments below.
Go on over there and let them know.
Submitted by Emmett on February 13, 2008 - 12:17pm.
The turnout for the precinct caucuses on Saturday throughout Thurston County was 10,956.
To compare that, the turnout in 2004, a year that everyone back then called "historic" was just under 5,000 throughout the county. Yeah, we had some loud and crowded rooms.
UPDATE: Then again, if you look at the turnout in the 2006 and 2004 primaries, turnout on Saturday was about a third of what we would have expected.
So, if you assume there are about 135,000+ registered voters in Thurston County, our turnout for the Democratic caucuses was under ten percent. If you assume equal turnout for the Republicans (and you can't) turnout was still under 20 percent.
More than 80 percent of the voters in Thurston County did not voice their preference on Saturday.
Submitted by Emmett on February 12, 2008 - 10:25am.
At Slog and the Capitol Hill Blog, they write about the caucuses, and why things go the way they go (crowded). I responded in the comments at CH blog, but I thought it would be worth reposting here at home:
We had a similar problem in Thurston County. At least down here, this is why we stuff a number of precincts into large rooms, rather than splitting them up into classrooms or private homes:
1. Student privacy. School districts are wary about letting a bunch of people they don't know into class rooms because students leave materials behind. So, for outside groups reserving school facilities, they prefer they use the common areas, such as gyms or cafeterias.
2. Americans with Disabilities Act. With public buildings you can be pretty sure that they're ADA compliant. Private homes, not so much.
3. Magnitude of the job to organize caucuses and the lack of people involved in local parties. Did you know that parties were organizing caucuses six months ago? Not many people did, and the volunteers that
were, were likely too busy to call you to see if your home was available.
Just getting one gym nailed down for 20 precincts is hard enough. Getting 20 private homes would be insane. Unfortunately, the on the ground work needed to organize caucuses is being left to fewer and fewer dedicated people.
I'm sorry if this next sentence sounds blunt (I don't intend it to be blunt or rude). If you had a problem with how the caucuses were organized, either make sure we use the primary to allocate delegates in four years or help out with your local Democratic organization.
Submitted by Emmett on February 11, 2008 - 2:37pm.
We talked about caucuses (seriously, we did), putting some resolutions on the February meeting agenda and other stuff. You can read our draft minutes from our awesome secretary here.
Submitted by Emmett on February 11, 2008 - 6:29am.
From K-Lynn on flickr:
More caucus flickr shots here and here.
What happens when your (you being the Thurston County Republicans) website crashes the day of the caucus? You lose caucus goers to the other party.
I kid you not. This person apparently couldn't find her caucus location on the Republican website (did I say it crashed? It crashed), so she just went to a Democratic one. Gives us in the hyperpartisan area a different view of partisanship.
Karan has a great report from her caucus here.
Speaking of great reports, there are some other ones over at Olyblog in their caucus open thread.
Olympia 18
Olympia 49
Tumwater 1
Woodard Creek 047
Olympia #2, #19, #43
Submitted by Emmett on February 10, 2008 - 2:01pm.
Submitted by Emmett on February 9, 2008 - 7:43pm.
Here's a thought or two on why the county Republicans website crashed this morning and our's didn't.
1. We have an awesome webmistress. I don't know about the Republicans, but our's is awesome.
2. The state Republicans website points to the county party's website as the resource for caucus locations.
Instead of hanging our website out to dry, the state Democratic party took it upon themselves to develop a database on which anyone in the state can look up their location.
I wonder how many other Republican county websites were sold down the crash and burn river today by the state Republicans?
Submitted by Emmett on February 9, 2008 - 11:49am.
Democracy crashed the county Republicans website. Cross our fingers for our website.
Stopped by county headquarters to pick up some filled out proxy forms for my site, and a fellow came in to ask some questions about caucuses. Mostly had to do with how long it would take (you can sign in and leave, takes about 20 minutes at least)and how late he can show up (don't show up later than 1:30 or you're toast).
This is all information that was available online in a dozen or so locations, but he decided to stop by the county party headquarters to find out. Just reminds me that people like to get information in a myriad of ways.
I've been home for two hours sweeping and mopping, and I've gotten two robo calls. This is added to the three I got earlier this week.
I was talking to one of my work mates all week about the caucus. We talked about where he should go, what he should expect and how to get the most out of the process. Late yesterday as I was leaving he tells me that it turns out he can't go, his roof is leaking and he needs to take care of it. Leaks happen.
Also, if you're asked to be a caucus secretary or if you're going to ask someone to be a caucus secretary, here are some good thoughts.
Submitted by Emmett on February 9, 2008 - 11:32am.
For the folks that are interested in the three resolutions (here, here and here) that were introduced and were scheduled to be voted on last week, they've been held over until the February meeting.
We voted to hold them over because we expected the training for the upcoming caucuses to take up most of the meeting. Which it did, so see you at the end of the month!
Submitted by Emmett on February 4, 2008 - 11:46pm.
Over the next few weeks, you can help the Thurston County Democrats write our platform. The platform is the one chance we have every couple of years to clearly articulate our values, defining who we are and what we stand for.
Therefore, in an effort to provide opportunities for discussion and participation, we've opened up the platform writing process.
You can also watch the work of our platform committee by reading their emails to each other here.
You can also use these pages to discuss the platform online with other Democrats:
Your discussion will be considered by the platform committee as they do their work. In order to participate in the online discussion, you need to sign up for this website. You can find details on how to do that here.
Delegates elected at the precinct caucuses will consider the work of the platform committee and approve the final platform at our April 19 county convention.
Submitted by Emmett on January 3, 2008 - 9:00am.
Four years ago, George Lakoff was the academic savant who would save the Democratic Party. His message? It can be summed up with this excerpt from his Moral Politics book: Political conservatives have spent substantial time in recent decades “carefully working out their values and designing a language to fit those values so that they can evoke them with powerful slogans, repeated over and over again, that reinforce the family-morality-policy links [that conservatives believe in], until the connections have come to seem natural to many Americans, including many in the media.”
For Lakoff, the political key is identifying values and developing a language to present those values.
These days, the academic savant who is going to save the Democratic Party is Drew Westen, whose book The Political Brain is a must-read. He's advising all of the major Democratic presidential candidates. In September he wrote this for the Seattle Times opinion page:
"Two visions of mind and brain have dominated contemporary American politics. One is a dispassionate vision, which suggests that voters choose candidates by examining their positions on the issues and coolly calculating their relative costs and benefits. The other, a passionate vision, suggests that voters are moved by the feelings that candidates and parties elicit in them and are guided by their shared values and goals.
Submitted by admin on December 31, 2007 - 2:44pm.
This resolution was presented at the November 26th TCD meeting, This resolution will be voted on at the January 28th TCD meeting where PCOs, Proxies and paid members of 30 days or more are welcome to vote. We are posting it to TCD Blue to encourage discussion about the resolution in preparation for the vote in January.
In order to comment or post to the TCD blog, you must have a user id and password. You can create one by following the "Create new account" link at the bottom left-hand side of any page on this website.
Resolution in Support of the Congressional Accompaniment Program
Whereas the 2008 Congressional Accompaniment Program is a non-partisan fact-finding tour to Israel/Palestine funded by donations from constituents and other citizens, and;
Whereas the tour is tentatively scheduled for the spring recess of Congress in 2008, and;
Whereas, this educational tour will help elected officials make informed decisions regarding the Israel/Palestine region, and;
Whereas the tour is for the elected officials and/or their staff members, along with interested constituents funding their own trips, and;
Whereas the founding organizations have researched the Congressional rules governing travel reimbursements and are confident that the CAP trip is in full compliance (CAP is not a registered lobby and has no paid staff);
Submitted by admin on December 3, 2007 - 4:58pm.
This resolution was presented at the November 26th TCD meeting, This resolution will be voted on at the January 28th TCD meeting where PCOs, Proxies and paid members of 30 days or more are welcome to vote. We are posting it to TCD Blue to encourage discussion about the resolution in preparation for the vote in January.
In order to comment or post to the TCD blog, you must have a user id and password. You can create one by following the "Create new account" link at the bottom left-hand side of any page on this website.
Resolution of the Thurston County Democratic Central Committee
Calling for the Impeachment of Richard Cheney
Whereas House Resolution 799 (HRes799) has been introduced on the floor of the US House with 23 sponsors and has advanced to the Judiciary Committee, and;
Whereas HRes799 lays out some but not all of the offenses of the Vice President, namely:
- purposely manipulating intelligence to fabricate a threat of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction in order to justify an attack on Iraq
- deceiving Congress about an alleged relationship between Iraq and al-Qaida
- threatening aggression against the Republic of Iran, absent any real threat to the United States,
and;
Whereas the US Constitution provides an orderly way to stop abuse of power by executive officers in Article II, Section 4;
Therefore, be it resolved that the Thurston County Democratic Central Committee hereby instructs our elected officials Brian Baird and Adam Smith to join immediately in the effort to advance HRes799 calling for the impeachment of Richard Cheney, and;
A copy of this resolution shall be delivered to the following elected representatives:
United States Congressman Brian Baird
United States Congressman Adam Smith
United States Senators Murray and Cantwell
State Senator Fraser
State Representatives Hunt and Williams
Thurston County Commissioners
The City Councils of Olympia, Lacey, and Tumwater
Howard Dean, Democratic National Committee
Dwight Pelz, Chair, Washington State Democratic Central Committee
Submitted by admin on December 3, 2007 - 4:46pm.
This resolution was presented at the November 26th TCD meeting, This resolution will be voted on at the January 28th TCD meeting where PCOs, Proxies and paid members of 30 days or more are welcome to vote. We are posting it to TCD Blue to encourage discussion about the resolution in preparation for the vote in January.
In order to comment or post to the TCD blog, you must have a user id and password. You can create one by following the "Create new account" link at the bottom left-hand side of any page on this website.
Resolution to Investigate the Abuse of Authority by Law Enforcement Officials During the November 2007 Olympia Port Protests
WHEREAS, the Citizens of the United States have a constitutional right to publically voice their dissent to the actions and policies of their elected representatives and all public officials are constitutionally mandated to respect this right
WHEREAS, the actions and policies of the current federal administration with regard to the instigation and pursuance of the War in Iraq are arguably illegal and opposed by a large majority of the American people
WHEREAS, public demonstrations and civil disobedience have been traditional avenue of action by our citizens to challenge unethical and extra-constitutional abuses by the institutions of our society.
WHEREAS, public law enforcement officials are required by law and precedence to remain neutral, respecting the individual rights and persons of those citizens exercising this right to dissent and most especially avoiding excesses in the use of force and coercion that might create a climate of fear and intimidation against all citizens’ right to dissent.
WHEREAS, the Olympia Police Department clearly used excessive and unreasonable force beyond their legal authority during the November 2007 Olympia Port Protests Against the Iraq War, as witnessed by both participants in that protest and by other casual observers.
WHEREAS, it is in the interests of every citizen into ensure that law enforcement officials, who are acting under the authority granted to them by the people, must use restraint in the exercise of that authority, respecting the principles of free speech and the right to assemble as enumerated in our constitution and thus guarding rights of all the people.
THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, that the Thurston County Democrats (TCD) call for an investigation by an independent authority into the actions of all law enforcement officials, up the entire command chain, to determine if officers committed illegal or reprehensible actions against the protesters during the November 2007 Olympia Port Protests
THEREFORE BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that TCD will ask that if unacceptable actions are found to have occurred, either by direct testimony or by the preponderance of evidence, that those responsible be held accountable and that a review of police policies and procedures be undertaken by legally accountable authorities with the goal of eliminating policies and practices within enforcement organizations that encourage or condone these unacceptable actions.
Submitted by admin on December 3, 2007 - 3:00pm.
This was a comment, I frontpaged it, eoc.
The fact that George W. Bush and Dick Cheney haven’t been impeached is a testament to Congressional Democrats’ choice of politics over principle and the abject failure of the mainstream media to do its job and provide substantive coverage of the Bush Administration’s shredding of the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights.
Submitted by Manwhorunswithwolves on August 18, 2007 - 9:24pm.
You may have heard of the building moratorium declared by the city in response to questions about construction in the Chambers Creek area of Southeast Olympia. In a nutshell, the city was growing, but it is not clear that it was managing.
For the August [27th TCD Central Committee] meeting, a member of the Chambers Creek neighborhood association will come to discuss one neighborhood’s experience coping with the explosive growth confronting Thurston County.
While the county has committed to the ideal of infill within city limits in order to limit growth in rural areas, city residents have encountered practical problems with that approach.
Many of the city’s undeveloped areas are undeveloped for good reasons, often having to do with drainage. Chambers Creek is a classic example. Years ago, part of Chambers Lake was drained to create farmland. On the map, farmland looks like good land for building. But where is the water going to go? When a large development went in without adequate permitting, the answer became clear enough last winter: over the road.
The Chambers Creek group learned that it is not always easy to get city officials to pay attention, and the complex mosaic of land management does not always bear a common-sense resemblance to how ecosystems or neighborhoods function on the ground.
Government of Chambers Creek is parted out, in various configurations, to Olympia, Lacey, Thurston County, the ditch commission, the Department of Fish and Wildlife, and Ecology. How do citizens work through that maze? Yet how could anyone in government possibly see the whole without their help?
Chambers Creek residents also learned how intimately developers and cities are connected. The term “impact fee” is abstract. What is not so abstract is the expected quid pro quo: allow construction to get your sidewalk, for example. Besides the question of whether this is a good way to grow a city, there is also the question of whether it actually works.
Does all this sound familiar? Do you have a story to share? The August meeting will be a good time talk about it – for Chambers Creek and beyond.
Written by: Eric Nelson
Vice President of the Association of Concerned Citizens for Chambers Lake Basin
Submitted by admin on August 13, 2007 - 3:10pm.
Thurston County PCO and union activist Joe Nilsson just launched his blog. Check out his first post:
France requires workers receive a minimum of 30 days of paid leave. Germany requires 20 days of paid leave, as does the U.K. and Australia. Canada and Japan require workers be given a minimum of 10 paid days of leave. This excludes paid holidays.
What is the required number of days in the United States? Zero. Nada. Zilch. What is wrong with this picture? Where are our family values? Are we intent on working ourselves to death? Where's the sense in that?
...
San Francisco became the first city in the nation to require that employers within it's boundaries provide paid sick leave, not annual leave, to their employees when voters approved Proposition F, the Paid Sick Leave Ordinance, in 2006.
Washington State's Legislature enacted a very modest, limited scope paid family leave program for new parents this year
Happy blogging Joe!
Submitted by Emmett on August 12, 2007 - 8:56am.
Several who attended our meeting last night have asked how they may find out more about or contribute to the statewide effort to support the "simple majority for public schools" referendum. More information is available at this web site:
http://www.simplybetterschools.org/
If you believe this is important, please plan to attend our August 27th meeting to vote on the "simple majority" resolution that was introduced last night.
Submitted by admin on July 24, 2007 - 9:22am.
Email from John Cusick, county chair:
Welcome to all members of the Thurston County Democrats! With the recent change in our bylaws, all 2007 dues-paying members are invited and encouraged to participate along with Precinct Committee Officers in our monthly meetings.
The July meeting of the Thurston County Democrats (TCD) will officially convene Monday, July 23, at 7:00 PM in room 129, building 2 (the "large courtroom") of the Thurston County Courthouse.
We will devote the first hour to learning more about the 6 candidates for Olympia City Council to whom we've granted campaign services:
Meta Hogan and Doug Mah, candidates for Mayor
Matthew Green and Craig Ottavelli, candidates for Olympia City Council Position 2
Rhenda Strub and Jeanne Marie Thomas, candidates for Olympia City Council Position 3
Each have kindly confirmed their participation in a mini-forum. We will be able to hear each of them talk about why they're running and what they hope to accomplish, and respond to up to six moderated questions. If you have a question you'd like to submit, you may email it to me by replying to this email before midnight Sunday (July 22) or by completing a card at the meeting.
We will also consider two resolutions introduced at our previous meeting:
- A resolution concerning immigration (available here)
- A resolution concerning recent actions by the US Attorney's Office (available here)
The full draft agenda for the meeting is available here. The draft minutes of last month's meeting are available here.
As always, please remember the less fortunate in our community and bring one or more non-perishable items for donation to the Thurston County Food Bank.
I look forward to seeing you next week!
John Cusick, Chair
Thurston County Democrats
Submitted by Emmett on July 20, 2007 - 7:39am.
Al Gore was in Seattle last night for a book signing and I was at the rally outside: giving out buttons, stickers, bumper stickers -- getting signatures on our "Draft Gore" petition and talking to the crowd. I worked my way from the back of the line towards Town Hall and who was at the front of the line going in the door? John Pearce! The event was sold out in a half hour! Lucky Dawg!
Andrew over at NPI live blogged the event and there was a nice article in this morning's P-I about the event.
Lucky, lucky John!
Submitted by seajane on June 5, 2007 - 4:31pm.
Last night the executive committee re-introduced the open membership bylaw amendment. Here is some information from a presentation on the amendment.
The changes from the current bylaws: Article II, Section 1: Governing Body
The TCDCC governing body consists of the duly elected or appointed Democratic Precinct Committee Officers (PCO) in accordance with RCW 29A.80 and other members as outlined in this article.
Article II, Section 2: Membership
A. All elected and appointed Democratic Precinct Committee Officers (PCOs) registered to vote in Thurston County shall be members.
B. Any other registered voter residing within Thurston County who declares him/her self a Democrat may become a voting member upon payment 30 days following receipt of annual dues. Renewing members shall maintain their eligibility to vote upon payment of current annual dues.
C. Members who are not PCOs are allowed to fully participate in the Thurston County Democrats except for those welcome and entitled to participate in discussions, but cannot elect TCDCC officers or state committee representatives, fill vacancies on the Democratic Party ticket or perform other duties limited to PCOs by State statute or by the charter and bylaws of the Washington State Democratic Party.
Submitted by Emmett on May 30, 2007 - 6:06am.
 Cindy Sheehan has been beaten down until she has quit the peace movement. What is wrong with people that they have to smear and spew hatred when faced with a message they don't like? Al Gore is so right when he writes that reason and honest debate is missing in our society now. The last straw for Cindy appears to be when so called liberals joined in the chorus. She thought we were her friends and understood.
Here's the heart breaker quote:
. . no one paid attention to me when I said that the issue of peace and people dying for no reason is not a matter of “right or left”, but “right and wrong.”
We lost a great leader yesterday.
When I've participated in peace demonstrations here in my hometown, I've noticed aggressiveness in comments from people who don't agree but I thought the number of them had decreased. A friend who participated in this last weekend's"Women in Black" demonstration said that the aggressiveness has reached new depths -- aggressive cursing, yelling of their death, being called crude words -- that she's thinking of staying home. One man had a sign that said "God Bless Bulldozers" How does someone muster that much hatred?
Submitted by seajane on May 29, 2007 - 3:13pm.
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