Welcome to all of our PCOs and the candidates who are seeking the appointment to replace Commissioner Bob Macleod in District 3. Thanks to the candidates for spending 3 hours with us yesterday to tell us who you are, why you want the appointment and you positions on various issues facing the county.
As you all know, we PCOs have a responsibility to select three candidates who will be forwarded to Commissioners Wolfe and Romero. This forum is just another opportunity for discussion amongst our Thurston County Democrats community. The format of this online forum is simple. At the end of this post is a link you can click to comment. Feel free to leave questions for candidates, comments about candidates, and anything else you feel is relevant to the discussion. Candidates can respond to questions by replying to the comment that asked a question, and others can reply to those responses by commenting on comments.If you have any questions, just leave a comment for me with the Subject header "Ken" and I'll respond as soon as I see them. We'll plan on staying online as long as folks have something to say. Don't feel like you need to be here until the sun goes down or constantly at your computer. The comment thread on the blog will stay live and you can check back in later tonight or tomorrow and add your 2 cents. The Ground Rules 1. Please keep the comments respectful of everyone and no personal attacks on candidates or other's opinions. I'd like to kick-off the forum by asking one question of our PCOs who are here today: What are you looking for in a County Commissioner? What qualities do you believe the person appointed to this position sould have? And to our candidates who are with us today: Why should you be appointed to the District 3 seat? What makes you better qualified for the position than your opponents? Thanks for to our candidates and PCOs for your participation today.
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Thanks Ken
Considerations for CC candidates
Times are Changing
Vision is the ability to anticipate a future that exceeds conventional expectations. I don't believe any of the candidates excel at this, but Walt does seem to think further outside the box than most.
I particularly like his honesty, especially his recognition of the need for and the sources of supplemental tax revenue. Discussions of increasing taxes is not a comfortable subject and is one that most candidates studiously avoid. I'm glad to see that he put impact fees on the table. I believe that increases in revenue are inevitable if essential county services are to survive, however I would like to see more discussion of equity and the actual anticipated impacts.
Walt's environmental stance demonstrates a commitment to a positive future and I believe this goes hand in hand with vision. Discussion of optimal density and zero growth should not be outside of a county commissioner’s purview. I would like to see a discussion of a sustainable future that generates as much enthusiasm as did the prospect of endless wealth during the stock market bubble, abet predicated more on rationality than greed. This will require attention to the needs of human beings, immersed in their environment.
Our criminal justice system as it is presently constituted is a bottomless pit, both socially and economically. We need a strong leader to lead us away from this precipice and at least Walt has taken a strong stance on this.
I believe that too much is being made of electability in the 2009 election cycle. None of us can predict who will ultimately be a strong candidate for this race. Times are changing far too fast, and it will be the person who adapts to these changes that will likely be the stronger candidate.
Also, the current commissioners should be willing to accept the will of the PCOs, who arguably are closer to their constituents and thus to the electorate.
Progressive Guy
The Electability Issue
But we are not making the final selection.
We're helping them to make that decision
Some concerns I have
Without naming names, there are some candidates (and it is more than one candidate doing this) who seem to be trying to dazzle us with the number of ways and times they invoke Barack Obama's name.
I think as Democrats we're all very appreciative of all that President-elect Obama has done, and the model campaign he ran, but I'm getting tired of hearing his name with regard to this race.
Barack Obama isn't running for County Commissioner. And trying to tie yourself to him isn't likely to help you with getting the votes of PCOs. So to the candidates who invoke his name, tell us specifically what elements of the President-elect's campaign you admired and how you intend to implement them in your campaign in 2009/2010? Please be as detailed as possible.
And my second concern is that until yesterday at the forum, I hadn't heard from at least half of the candidates. Now I don't consider myself too terribly important, but I am a PCO. If you're seeking this appointment, you need my vote and the vote of enough of my fellow PCOs to make the top 3. So to the PCOs, I'd ask if you're considering someone who hasn't bothered to call and ask for your support or doorbell you and why? And if you're a candidate who hasn't been calling or doorbelling PCOs please tell us why.
Obama exploitation and calls
Obama references
Regarding yesterday's candidate forum
Ken's question to candidates
Spelling
Thanks for joining us Karen
What I am looking for in the people who's names are passed on
Glad to see you made it
You said:
I believe I heard Walt Jorgensen say he supports impact fees at the candidate forum yesterday. And that support sounded pretty strong to me.
And if you're looking for someone who understands law enforcement issues and the costs that go into those programs, Ed Crawford definitely has the experience as a state trooper and then as the city of Kent's Police Chief.
Re Walt
Can you share with us
Ken
I have their comments on video
I didn't get those messages from Walt yesterday.
Am I missing something the Commissioners said?
All I will say.
Walt
Crawford
Ed Crawford
elected experience
For me, the best qualification is to have already been elected to a position. After combing through the applications, I limited my choices to previously or currently elected officials.
Other than that, I've tried to suss out whether I agree with them on some issues that I think are important for the county commission (such as home rule and technology in government).
Emmett O'Connell
Olympia 48
I agree
Also, since there is a Democratic majority on the Board of County Commissioners, we can expect the Republicans to invest heavily into this race. We need a strong candidate, with a record to run on, and the ability to raise money and hit the ground running on the campaign trail as soon as he/she is appointed.
Ken Camp
Tumwater 28
Another vote for experience
Welcome to the forum
Ken, thanks for hosting this blog.
Gayle
Thanks for joining us Gayle
You said:
I get the feeling that you've participated in this process to bring light to issues that are important to you, and that you're not expecting to be appointed. That's not a bad thing, in my mind, if it brings about the change that you're seeking.
Don't sell yourself short Gayle. You may not be as experienced as some of the other candidates, but your passion for the issues you bring to the table was very obvious yesterday. You are impressive in your own right.You might not be ready to be a County Commissioner, but you've proven to me that I'd want you on my side if I was running, and I'd probably be seeking your counsel on environmental and land use issues.
Regardless of the outcome of this process, I hope you'll continue to stay involved.
Thank you, yet again